Saturday, August 20, 2016

ENGL 1301.112 Chapter 3 Discussion





What is the most interesting this you learned from reading chapter 3, and why? Respond to two of your peers. 

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  1. The most interesting thing I learned in chapter 3 Is analyzing images. You may look at a picture and see one thing and someone else may look at the exact same picture and see something else. just the imagination of the picture is fascinating.

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    1. I agree with you Jenna, a picture can tell a story without words. The way we conceive the picture may be of two different perspectives.

      Roland

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    2. I agree with you Jenna, everyone has a different prospective view on things
      -Derrale'

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    3. I agree with you Jenna, we all see things in a different light,

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    4. I agree with you too Jenna, everyone views pictures different.
      Maria Landeros

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  2. "Analyzing Images", in chapter three was interesting. Just by looking at the pictures of wolves individually, I judged each picture differently.

    Roland Sanchez

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    1. I thought this was very interesting as well. The pictures of the wolves were very effective in illustrating the different angles of vision the photographer(s) chose.

      Elizabeth Carnes

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    2. I also thought "Analyzing images was very interesting. It's astounding that there can be so many different views on a single subject.

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    3. Roland, I agree with you 100% I also judged every wolf individually. I love your post, and analyzing images is always fun to do especially at a museum with a lot of friends.

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    4. I do agree with you Roland, analyzing images was interesting. There are many ways a viewer can analyze the pictures of the wolves.

      Diana Torres

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  3. The most interesting thing that I've learned from chapter 3, is about the ladder of abstraction. It's a very effective method to use when describing a vivid image.
    -Derrale'

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    1. I agree with you Derrale'. Anyone can look at a picture and believe it means one thing; but, by using your own abstraction you can make someone see your point of view rather than their own.

      Roland Sanchez

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    2. I also thought the ladder of abstraction was interesting. It is a very helpful tool in writing. Deciding which level to use can really change the tone of your writing.

      Elizabeth Carnes

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  4. The most interesting thing that I learned in chapter 3 was how important sentence structure is in emphasizing main ideas. I understand now that it is necessary to phrase a sentence correctly in order to make the point you want. The two examples given with their different emphases were very helpful in explaining this concept.

    Elizabeth Carnes

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    1. I agree with you Elizabeth. Sentence structure is very important especially when it comes to writing it for essays or letters.
      -Derrale' Jonnson

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    2. I completely agree Elizabeth. I've always had a hard time having very well formed sentences, but I feel as though I'm getting better.

      Erick Burleson

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    3. I agree with you Elizabeth that sentence structure is very important in emphasizing main ideas. If sentence structure is bad, the main ideas will not be conveyed effectively.

      Travis Hutchison

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    4. I agree with you Elizabeth, sentence structure is very important and I myself am just now learning how to write proper sentences and get my point across. Very nice post.

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    5. Also agreed, you can jumble a bunch of words together in an overcomplicated manner to express a simple idea or you can restructure it to be clear and concise. Obviously unless you are trying to exert your literary prowess, the best course of action would be to form more concise phrasing for easier readability that would be more suited for a larger audience, such as in the case of the writings of Ernest Hemingway, more often than not.

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    6. Sentence structure, I am learning this for the first time really and I never realized how incredibly incorrect I have been writing.

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    7. I agree with you, sentence structure is important you have to have a good structure so the reader has a clear understanding.
      Maria Landeros

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  6. The Most interesting thing I learned was Analyzing Images. You can get so many things out of a single image depending on what perspective you look in from.

    Erick Burleson

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    1. I agree with you Erick that you can get many different things out of an image from varying perspectives.

      Travis Hutchison

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    2. I agree, there are so many different ideas and perspectives you can get from one image,

      - Maria Cabrera

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    3. One image can tell so many stories, and can be looked at in so many different ways.

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    4. I agree, we all have different points of views and we can all understand and image differently.

      -America Echeverria

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  7. The most interesting thing I learned from chapter 3 was the angle of vision. Through the writer's angle of vision, the reader sees through the perspective of the writer. I realized how important the angle of vision is for persuading readers.

    Travis Hutchison

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    1. The angle of vision was also interesting. The writer's angle of vision determines what is "seen" or "not seen in a given piece of writing.

      Diana Torres

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    2. Agreed. I had not previously considered implementing a solid angle of vision but I now see its importance. If you write about a topic but take no stance on the matter, a reader may have little motive for reading your work in its entirety.

      Matt Grice

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    3. I think this is particularly relevant to news articles. I never realized how biased different outlets are until this presidential election came around. You can easily tell which sites favor which candidate based on the articles they focus on.

      -Richard Drake

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    4. Chapter 3 has a great way of explainig the true meaning of analyzing. I coulnt understand writing's credability till now. Persuading through a picture has a strong effect on humans creativity. I agree with Richard on this election I have been seeing so much pop out information more then words , but yet it all makes sence.

      *Heidi Alvarado*

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  8. The most interesting thing that I learn from chapter 3 was Understanding Factors That Affect Style, wg=which help me on analyze the language how this creates different effects when you write such as ways of shaping sentence word choice voice and tone.

    Soledad Mendez

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    1. This is a good point. I always find that I tend to be overly eloquent in my college writing, which is not indicative of how I normally speak. I suppose it's just what my mind thinks academic writing should sound like. It helps if you read your essays out loud and think, "Would this sound awkward if I was speaking it to a friend?"

      Richard Drake

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  9. Document design, was the most interesting thing I learned from chapter 3. The way a writer formats a text in a page can have a surprising impact of the effectiveness of a message.

    Diana Torres

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    1. I also found this to be the most interesting part of chapter 3. There are many ways to design a document, that can affect the whole style of your piece, which can affect its impact on the audience.
      Siarah Rodriguez

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  10. The most interesting thing I took from chapter three was the amount of inferences that can be made from a single image, as opposed to just a handful (as per the sweatshop illustration, for example). I suppose an image powerful or controversial enough can produce a wide range of opinions.

    Matt Grice

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    1. And utilizing point of vision one can be steered! Great point well done.

      Aaron Davis

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  11. I think the most interesting topic was the section on ethos/logos/pathos. Although this is something we most likely all touched on in high school, it was a good reminder for the keys of persuasive and effective writing. The second topic was the idea of "field of vision." This is not something I keep in the forefront of my mind when I read something, although it is very significant. It reminds me of reading news articles lately and thinking how biased the writers are toward one presidential candidate or the other. They manipulate the field of vision based on which candidate they favor.

    -Richard Drake

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    1. Great point, this is a great time to be studying rhetorical analysis and playing on the emotions. Every election cycle these tools are used to the fullest.

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    2. I definitely agree with you! I do not realize the 'Field of Vision' either when I'm reading articles. The writers of the articles on the presidential candidates are very manipulative!

      -Lauren Steadman

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  12. The point that jumps out to me from chapter three is the rhetorical triangle. Utilizing Logos,pathos and ethos one can slant or sway opinions to the the presented argument. I think its interesting that although our emotions as humans is what allowed us to evolve our best traits, they can still be placated and used against us. Playing on peoples emotions sense of moral character, or basics sense of reason allows so much weight to be added to any argument or image.


    Aaron Davis

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    1. I really like and agree with your last sentence here. I have never thought of pathos, logos, and ethos like that before. They do allow for our arguments to be stronger.
      Siarah Rodriguez

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    2. I strongly agree with how you have explained, on chapter 3 was right on the logos,pathos, and ethos. I can better understand and remeber the trangle. I have notice that all the commercials have use this method all our lives. I will definitely use this on my righting from now on.

      Heidi A.

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    3. I agree with this, you explained it very well. Chapter three gave me a realization of how our emotions can also be used against us.
      -Samantha Welch

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  13. After reading chapter 3, I felt as though the concept of a persuasive power through style and document design was the most interesting. I have not given a lot of thought to the fact that a different style of writing is an important part when you are trying to appeal to different audiences because as a student, I usually write to the same type of audience. There were also many different concepts that go into the style and design of a writing piece that I found interesting as well.
    Siarah Rodriguez

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    1. I agree, i liked how chapter 3 described how different you will explain a party you attended to your best friend and how differently you would describe it to your parents.

      -Maria Cabrera

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  14. The most interesting thing i learned and took from chapter 3 is the angle of vision. It made me realize how well manipulated it can be and if done correctly, you can make your reader believe anything.
    - Maria Cabrera

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    1. I agree! Looking at the photos of the wolves, for example, you have a different feeling toward each one. It's amazing how we can be so easily manipulated by images.

      -Lauren Steadman

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    2. I agree as well, it is interesting how manipulated an image can be when you look at it from different angles.

      Nicholas Cavazos

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  15. I thought the most interesting thing is using your sentence structure to emphasize your main ideas. Reading the two different sentence examples gave me two different points of view on the subject. I learned that by ending a sentence with my main point, I can influence the reader by leaving that main thought with them.

    Lauren Steadman

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  16. It was interesting to see how images can have so many different meanings. We can be easily persuaded by the different writing skills of the author.

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    1. I agree with you james, when looking at an image you do get different means and maybe some emotion depending on the image.

      Nicholas Cavazos

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  17. Analyzing images was the most interesting part of chapter 3 for me.

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    1. I agree with you Stacey and we may feel different feeling by looking at the same picture.
      -Andrea Orozco

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    2. I agree with you Stacey, analyzing images is interesting because we all may see a different perspective of the image.
      -Stephanie Barajas

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  18. Persuasion in messages is probably my favorite part of chapter three. The reason for this is that I am in an integrated speech class this semester as well and it teaches how speaking to persuade works. Now that I’m seeing it on paper and in stories the idea intrigues me.

    Roland Sanchez: I agree with you as well. It would be interesting to know what everyone actually interpreted from the images just to see a different point of view.

    Richard Drake: Your ideas on Ethos, logos, and pathos are very good. It’s so amazing how those three words tie so many things together even outside of English.

    Shawn McCain

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    1. I agree, it is very true that everything in chapter 3 is applied in real life although we might not pay critical attention as it is interpreted in the book. How the messages persuade through their angle of vision determines what the reader sees and this vision might differ from person to person.

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  19. The most interesting thing i read in chapter 3 is analyzing images because you can look at the images and make statements of it, and other people can put an input as well that could be different

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    1. I agree with you and that is the beauty of visual analysis using photos and the ability to recognize the angle of vision in a Text.


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  20. Chapter 3 has a lot of ideas and methods to offer to a writer in different designs and purposes. However, the most interesting thing I learned is recognizing the angle of vision in a text and how the messages persuade through their angle of vision. Like the book said, “There is always more than one way to tell a story and the writer’s angle of vision is persuasive because it controls what the reader sees” (Concept 3.1). The vision and text creates a sort of awareness and persuasive analysis which can be interpreted in different ways in writing depending on the audience, the logic, the emotion and how it appeals to the writer. (Concept 3.2)

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  21. The most important thing I learned from chapter 3 is analyzing images. Images can give us a perfect explanation of what is happening.

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  22. The most interesting thing that caught my attention during chapter three was how its easy to manipulate photos to make some one see what you see. A picture is worth a thousand words, but everyone's view is different as well.

    Edward Chaidez

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    1. I agree Edward everyone have different feeling when we see the picture and what is trying to tell us by looking at it.

      -Andrea Orozco

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  23. What I learned in chapter 3 is that the persuasion massage of the images is very important to express things. Also, I think that different people can look at the same picture or any image, but they can see or feel different feeling about the picture or image. People can also analyze and recognize the visual angle of the picture. In addition, my opinion is that people get nonverbal massage persuasion through the visual and the eyes let them feel and analyze what the massage from the picture is.

    -Andrea Orozco

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    1. I agree with this, it is very cool how two people can view the same image and feel that the picture has a different meaning.
      -Samantha Welch

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  24. In Chapter 3 the most interesting thing I learned is how authors use pathos, logos, and ethos to persuade the readers. I find it amazing how they can use certain words and phrases that make give the readers a reason to side with the author and believe what they are saying.
    -Samantha Welch

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  25. To me the most interesting thing I learned in chapter 3 is how you can persuade messages by using logos, ethos and pathos. Its interesting how us as writers can use each one of them to persuading a readers perspective on the idea that the writer is writing about. You can use pathos for example to really get some to be persuaded towards the idea by just trying to use emotional words as you are writing.

    Nicholas Cavazos

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    1. Yes, I agree with you Nicholas, keep the readers wanting more, and keep them in tune with what they're reading.
      -Stephanie Barajas

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  26. What I learned about Chapter 3 is how a picture or logos can send a message. The messages persuade our way in looking at things differently to each and one of us by the look of angle of vision.

    Janai Benitez

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  27. Stephanie Barajas

    Chapter 3, what I learned and found interesting, Analyzing Images. You really have to focus, think and attempt to get all the details of the image. I find it interesting how analyzing the image the effect may be different from person to person

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  28. The most interesting thing in Chapter 3 was on analyzing images. The amount of perspectives and attention to detail during the analysis is amazing.

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