Discuss the audience, tone, and pathos that you are planning to use in your essay. Reply to at least one of your peers.
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Audience:
ReplyDeleteSwift seems to be talking to several types of audiences; some of which I perceived as: tourists, infants, teenage children, parents, mothers, cannibalism, religion and one that strikes me the most entrepreneurship.
Tone:
Swift also seemed to jump around with his tone, as he were trying to reach out to many different audiences in hopes to coax at least one or more of them. I found it overwhelming, sense of helpless hope, irritation, optimistic, doubtful, own belief, poverty stricken, an envisionist and who speaks of; "do not preach of what you do not know."
Pathos:
While reading Swift's pamphlet, I felt emotionally empowered. I felt a sense of helplessness, pity, sorry, sadden, disgust, angry, hope and just calling him a *astard for even suggesting such an idea.
Roland Sanchez
I think your description of being overwhelmed by his changes of tone and use of pathos are spot on! It's a great word to describe the crazy range of emotions the essay makes you experience.
DeleteKatie Watson
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DeleteI totaly agree with Roland 100 %, this was a horrific but yet intresting story. I find my self at disgust for swift sudggesting some of his ideas as a metaphor.
DeleteHeidi A.
I think your way of explaining how his tone changes and is jumped around is very accurate. He uses different tones to express what is going on and using all these tones helps the readers feel all sorts of different emotions.
DeleteSamantha welch
I agree with Roland, with the different types of emotions that you get from reading the story. The different audiences he is reaching out too is something. Especially the entrepreneurship.
DeleteNicholas Cavazos
I agree to. There were a lot of emotions that he put the audience through to make his appeal.
DeleteJames Purvis
Audience:
ReplyDeleteSome examples of audiences used by Swift are mothers, travelers, poor citizens, wealthy landlords and business owners. Throughout the essay, he writes toward different audiences at different times.
Tone:
Swift uses many different tones throughout the essay. The tone started off as melancholy and sadness, and then to helplessness. Another tone used in the essay is cruelty regarding the children.
Pathos:
The pathos throughout the story changes much like the tone. At first its sympathy towards the children, then sadness and grief about the living conditions. Then it turns to anger and frustration.
Travis Hutchison
I agree with you completely. The tone used is more about cruelty towards these children. He also does bring about sympathy in the beginning of the essay. You feel bad for the conditions they are living in. You are correct though, it makes you feel angry that he would even propose a plan such as this one.
DeleteLauren Steadman
I also agree. He did a very good job in the tone. He started off sad just to hook you in and then when he continues on it changes to make you feel bad and pity the kids, but then it changes when his proposal starts and is very cruel like how you said. The tone from the beginning is very different from the tone in the very end.
Delete- Maria Cabrera
I agree with you too. He was using satire in the tone since he was being cruel and using sarcasm. It makes the reader angry with a thought like that.
DeleteMaria Landeros
I agree as well. He does use very different tones through out the essay. It surprising to the readers how they would treat the children, and the emotions you would get from reading about it. To me it was just sad and not right.
DeleteStephanie Barajas
Audience:
ReplyDeleteSwift seems to be speaking to the travelers of Ireland, the parents of these children, and the elite and wealthy citizens. Also, "lovers of the country", as he calls them. His audience does change throughout the essay, as he speaks to them all in different tones.
Tone:
At first his tone is strong, he is going to help the helpless. As the essay goes on his tone changes from sympathetic to very unsympathetic.
Pathos:
The emotion changes throughout the essay. He makes you feel like it's a great idea, we are helping our country turn away from the English. As it goes on the emotion is all but gone. He makes the reader feel disgust towards the idea. That he would even put this much thought into this idea, by talking to others about it, makes you dislike him completely. Though he gives many logical points, the fact that he makes you feel disgust takes away from any logic there might have been.
Lauren Steadman
I agree with your thoughts on the pathos of the essay. Swift does make many logical points; however, his idea as a whole is horrifying and causes a reader to disregard most of those logical ideas. I have a hard time imagining the public taking his idea seriously.
DeleteElizabeth Carnes
I also agree with the tone of the essay. Swift in the beginning is sympathetic towards the people but towards the end it gets a little uncomfortable and unsympathetic.
DeleteAlize Rideaux
I agree by getting the audience to revel in disgust at his ideas it will promote a call to action from the very people causing the problem!
DeleteAaron Davis
Audience:
ReplyDeleteSwift is appealing to many different types of readers, such as Protestants, poor mothers, and the wealthy gentlemen in the kingdom. He references these particular ones multiple times.
Tone:
The tone throughout the essay comes as across as very pragmatic and matter of fact. In the beginning, there is a somewhat sad aspect to Swift's writing, but that soon gives way into a very business like tone.
Pathos:
The feelings evoked by Swift's writing are some of sadness, sympathy, shock, horror, and anger. In reading "A Modest Proposal", a reader goes through a range of emotions, ending for some in disbelief.
Elizabeth Carnes
I agree with your idea on Pathos, while reading Swifts essay I defiantly felt sad, sympathetic, angry, and horrified by his ideas.
DeleteMorgan Follis
My thoughts exactly. His audience did range from the rich to poor, religion and referenced them several times throughout. I also felt that during the beginning Swift drew in his audience with a sincere tone but lead right into a business like attitude. The feeling, that most seem to agree on, also came out as you have described.
DeleteRoland Sanchez
I agree with you completely on the pathos. I definitely felt a sense of sadness, and sympathy, and anger and he does invoke a lot of emotions in the essay.
DeleteDerrale' Johnson
I total agree with you Roland, to whom Swift was directly giving his thoughts and message to. I do believe he was being a bit much ironic to the idea he was imposing. I do believe he did have good intentions, but he was miss understood.
DeleteHeidi A.
Audience:
ReplyDeleteThe audience aimed in "A Modest Proposal" are the people of Ireland, from lower class families to upper class wealthy men. Swift directs his attention to a different group in society throughout the text, trying to persuade everyone his idea is in their best interest.
Tone:
Swifts tone throughout the text is very serious and melancholy, he very rarely has any emotion when talking about such horrific ideas. But when he does its usually sincerity or sadness.
Pathos:
The emotions a reader feels when reading "A Modest Proposal" range from sadness and pity to anger and horror.
Morgan Follis
Audience: Swift addresses many audiences throughout the essay, including "lovers of the country", poor mothers and children, young laborers, the rich, and the religious. This is his way of trying to appeal to all audiences to gain approval of his ideas.
ReplyDeleteTone: Swift begins with a very sad, melancholic tone to rope you in, but begins to change tone throughout the essay. Sad to serious, almost cold, back to sad. I feel that despite his tone changes he manages to show his sarcasm throughout the essay.
Pathos: The number one emotion that Swift's essay elicits has to be disgust. His proposal seems almost inhuman, yet even in your disgust you feel pity for the people he talks about.
Katie Watson
I completely agree with your stance on the pathos. How anyone could come up with something so horrifyingly inhuman I have no idea.
DeleteAudience: Swift seems to be speaking mainly to the wealthy of Ireland, proposing this as a plan to rid themselves of the strain on their society.
ReplyDeleteTone: The tone in this piece jumps around a lot. It jumps around quite often but the main tone I picked up was Optimism at how this solution would play out.
Pathos: Disgust and pity. Those two words describe exactly how this piece makes me feel. Disgust at Swift, pity for the mothers and children, and finally pity that the world could have created the personality that could write this piece.
As I was reading Swift's "A Modest Proposal", I also felt disgust towards Swift. How could he even think to propose such absurd ideas to the Irish community.
DeleteDiana Torres
AUDIENCE: Swift is writing to all of Ireland. Mostly to the wealthy and the poor. He mentions how his plan will benefit both classes and even asks for suggestions if they didn't agree with his ideas. Kind of saying, "If you don't like my idea then why don't you come up with abetter one?"
ReplyDeleteTONE: The tone that Swift was giving out at first sounded sad and sympathetic. Like if he actually cared and wanted to help. But through out it changes into a serious more horrifying essay, not really showing any sympathy at all anymore. Very clear of his plan and ready to get the ball rolling on it.
PATHOS: I felt horrible and disgusted. Even thinking about how someone could come up with a kind of plan like he did was disturbing. The way he talked about his plans though was very good. He wanted to make the reader understand his plans and the reason he was doing it and he did that very well. Overall it made me feel sad on how easily he could come up with such horrifying ideas.
Audience
DeleteEven though swift addresses the whole state of Ireland he intended to mainly direct it towards the English in general.
Tone
Swift’s tone comes off very sarcastic and pretentious which makes the story full of irony but also seem kind of playful but weird.
Pathos
Swift used many examples of pathos in this story. The first one I recognized is when he made us feel sorry for the children by how he wrote “their helpless infants who, as they grow up, either turn into thieves for want of work or leave their dear native country, to fight for the pretender of Spain, or sell themselves to the barbadoes.” He definitely gets his audience to see things from his point of view with how powerful his imagery is. It made me feel all kinds of mixed emotions.
Krystie Archer
I agree with your perspective 100%. by reading your ideas of audience tone and pathos I feel as if I am reading the story again.
DeleteAudience: Swift is speaking to the people of Ireland, to address the poverty problems going on in that era.
ReplyDeletetone: The tone Swift uses throughout the essay, is sarcasm. Mainly targeting babies and mothers, in which the whole essay is about.
pathos: In the essay, the main emotions that he invoked, were sadness and anger. Sadness for the mothers and children in poverty and anger that they had to go through, what they went through.
Derrale' Johnson
Audience: Swift is talking to the people of Ireland about his thoughts an ideas that will help the rich and the poor.
ReplyDeleteTone: The tone of the essay is first sensitive, hopeful and tenderhearted but towards the end the tone it gets a little more insensitive, unfeeling which leads the reader an uncomfortable feeling at the end.
Pathos: The emotion that the reader would feel in the beginning is sorry, awful and towards the end its more of a uncomforted disgust feeling when Swift expresses his ideas toward the children.
Alize Rideaux
Audience:
ReplyDeleteSome examples of audiences used by Swift are children, travelers, women, wealthy landlords, poor people, and business owners. Throughout the essay, he writes toward different audiences at different times.
Tone: I found the tone to be very hopeful at first but then towards the end of the story uncomfortable and horrible.
Pathos: the pathos are much like the tone in the story, the beginning is sorrowful and awful.
Audience:
ReplyDeleteSwift uses many audiences but I chose to focus on women and children. To me, these two groups are the main focus in the essay. He is focusing on women by telling them how he has an option for them to not have to be beggars. He is focusing on children by explaining how they will make a delicious dish for the nobles.
Tone:
I am choosing to go with a somber tone. To me, this essay is somber throughout. I find there is no other tone.
Pathos:
I feel anger, disgust, sadness and confusion throughout the entire essay. While reading, I wanted to vomit because of the things suggested.
The audience I think Swift is speaking to, in this essay, is the affluent wealthy and lawmakers in Ireland and England. He is using descriptions that point out individuals who he thinks should hear his points and make a change. He hopes that when they hear his unbelievable answer they will open their eyes and ears and a meaningful discussion can be had.
ReplyDeleteIn order to demonstrate how dire a situation they are in, Swift uses a very grave a serious tone. He paints a picture of the bleak outlook the impoverished have at this time In Ireland.
To strengthen his argument for action, the author uses sarcasm and quick wit to elicit a level of disgust and repulsion. In doing so he can turn the tables on the non action of the people who can make a difference. Swift uses wonderful metaphors to demonstrate how their indifference and the economic culture of the day is the same as cannibalism and the literal eating of the lower classes.
Aaron Davis
I agree with your audience. You made good points about what his hopes are for the wealthy audience.
DeleteThe tone is spot on. I got a serious tone from this piece as well.
You make an interesting point regarding what he is trying to do with his use of pathos.
Siarah Rodriguez
Audience:
ReplyDeleteSwift is talking to all the people of Ireland. He is talking to anyone who is bothered by the poverty. I made this conclusion from the descriptions and scenarios he used to describe the people who are affected by the poverty.
Tone:
Throughout the essay, Swift's proposal seemed serious because of his use of facts and discussions of his schemes and thought processes.
Pathos:
Swift invoked emotion out of the reader. He did this by describing specific scenarios and made them relatable to the townspeople. It causes the audience to create an emotion connection to the problem and makes them more favorable of his solution.
Siarah Rodriguez
Yes, I agree he is talking to the people of Ireland.
DeleteI also agree that he had a serious tone in this writing, but I also felt that he was sarcastic and ironic as well during some parts.
He definitely invoked emotion out of the reader. The emotions I felt ranged from sadness to disgust.
stacey grubbs
Audience:
ReplyDeleteIn Johnathan Swift "A Modest Proposal" he is talking to the mothers and young laborers. In order to convince them to sell their children as food to the wealthy. As a benefit for the mothers and young laborers.
Tone:
The tone changes throughout the proposal. By Swift giving shocking, heartless, gruesome and ridiculous ideas on how children can be use as food for the wealthy.
Pathos:
The Pathos changes the emotions of the reader throughout the beginning and the end of the proposal. At first is compassion and sympathy towards the children and mothers. Then is disgust and anger towards Swift.
Diana Torres
Audience: Everyone I think his message was not just for the people of that country instead it was for all around so people can take action and help the families in there to make the country a better place to live.
ReplyDeleteTone: I think it would be sarcastic due that it is mention something that seriously he doesnt want to do it is just for the people that didnt take that issue as a big problem in the society.
Pathos: I think the author feels compassion and sadness for those children but at the end his proposal is irrelevant which makes you think a lot of stuff but at the same time you really get the message of what he was referring to.
Ceara Kyle
ReplyDeleteAudience: Swift seems to be writing to industrialists( people figuring out how to make money, turn the country around) the Americans since they are the ones who left Ireland poor, and mothers who are producing child after child. business owners, poor people in ireland
Tone TP me swift has a mocking tone but a funny tone as well...child labor makes sense, put everyone we can to work, but then he throws out eating the children and that is just absurd. and funny/mocking. or sarcastic if you will.
Pathos: for me I feel sympathy for the poor and starving people shock because wow what kid of person comes up with cannibalism as a solution. and sadness because i couldn't imagine living in a time when My country lost everything and all the people were struggling to survive. I also feel a little empowered because someone is thinking towards a better future.
Audience: I believe Swift is mainly talking to the wealthy people in England.
ReplyDeleteTone: Throughout Swift's essay he uses a lot of sarcasm and irony by the way he expresses himself about the poverty.
Pathos: I feel bad by the way people see the poor they believe they are not worth as a human being.
Grecia Salazar
I agree with your tone and pathos but your audience I think should be expanded to the poor in Ireland since they are the ones with the problem of poverty. and who need a solution.
DeleteCeara Kyle
Andrea Orozco
ReplyDeleteAudience: Reading each line I have the feeling Swift the author is wants everyone know to know about the problem because he wrote it. I believe Swift wants the government, parent, specially women and wealthy people to get involved and listen to him.
Tone: I could feel Swift's sarcasm, no one can eat kids or would like to eat them. Professional tone when he talks about how children become thieves and mothers do not care to have more. Melancholy because the poverty leads the children to starve.
Pathos: Powerless is how I feel. Everyone is equal and everyone should have the same right by divine grace. Children around poverty and hungry makes me sad to death
I like that you used powerless in your pathos. I agree I feel powerless for them
DeleteCeara Kyle
Pathos: I think Swift used sadness in expressing some things in his story, especially when speaking about the children. He uses words that almost hit a nerve and want the readers to feel sorry for the people going through tough times
ReplyDeleteTone: I think Swift uses a tone of humor while being authoritative. He wants to make sure that the readers stay reading and he uses a authoritative tone to make sure he gets his point across while still using humor to express things happening.
Audience: I believe Swift is directing his story to the people that are going through what he is talking about in the story. He wants to win everyone in making his plan happen to fix society.
Samantha Welch
Audience: Jonathon Swift had many different audiences including infants, children, women, the people of Ireland, business owners, government etc.
ReplyDeleteTone: I gathered that he was serious when he was speaking about the issues of poverty and beggars. The tone is very sarcastic and ironic for example when he is speaking about how delicious the babies are.
Pathos: I felt bad when I heard about the conditions of the children and mothers and what they were going through. I was shocked when Jonathan Swift proposed that the people of Ireland eat their young.
Stacy Grubbs
Audience: I believe the message was intended for his adopted peers: the English. He is trying to make them realize the abusive way that they are treating the people who they are governing.
ReplyDeleteTone: He spoke sarcastically so as to bring attention to the disgusting manner in which the Irish were being treated.
Pathos: I believe Swift was writing out of anger and disgust for the social injustices that the people from his birthplace were experiencing.
Shawn McCain
Audience: In "A Modest Proposal" Swift was relating to different audience such as the wealthy land lords, the English and the business owners.
ReplyDeleteTone: Swifts tone at the beginning of the article was sad. Towards the middle to end was mostly sarcasm and scary. After reading I wouldn’t thought it would end up in a bad plan.
Pathos: The Pathos is the emotion of the article, in "A Modest Proposal" it was extremely emotional: sad, shocking, and horrified.There was a part of the article were it was hard to believe Swifts actions. It was sad how he would think of having any plans on harming the children.
-Cristal G
I agree with you. He seems smart and focused in his style although he might not bring solution to Ireland situation at hand.His method also makes you think loud on how to access his true mind as a writer and the readers response.
DeleteKcitar Uba
Audience: I believe he was speaking to his country in general, as in the parents, kids, older people, kings and royalty, everyone all around to try to get to understand his proposal.
ReplyDeleteTone: Swift talks in a sarcastic tone almost through out the entire paper, he uses humor to keep the audience interested, but when he speaks upon the way kids only make things more difficult and do nothing but bad you get a very serious tone of it. towards the end he has a very rough, and bad tone.
Pathos: It made me feel bad seeing how bad the poor are treated compared to everyone else around as if they are nothing but something that can be used for others own convenience.
- Karla G
Audience:
ReplyDeleteDr. Jonathan Swift was talking to several types of audiences; for instance; People in Ireland- tourists/travelers, Infants, Teenagers, Parents, Mothers, Cannibalistic/Religious people, Poor citizens, Wealthy landlords and business owners. Although he writes to different audience at different times throughout the essay the topic is controversial and Dr. Jonathan Swift assumes his audience disagrees with his opinion.
Tone:
Dr. Jonathan Swift uses different tones throughout the essay that is overwhelming, like helplessness, optimism, sympathetic, hope, irritation, doubt, poverty, pity, sorry, sadness, disgust, angry and undecided which strengthened the essay a little bit
Pathos:
Sympathetic, suspicious and Horrified pathos. He makes you feel like it is a great idea as if he is helping the poor women and infants.
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